Maine Genea DIG – Meeting Minutes: 11 June 2016

Maine Genealogical DIG – DNA Interest Group

Moderator –  Nancy Critchley  Mason

Meeting Minutes 11 June 2016

There were 37 people in attendance at the June 11, 2016, DIG meeting.  Nancy welcomed newcomers to the Gray Library on Hancock Street.  The Treasurer,    Lorraine Jones, reported that there was $37 contributed at the May 14th meeting bringing the total to $112. Nancy said that she thought we should purchase a book for the DIG library with the money.

There were quite a few Maine Genealogy Society members in attendance at the meeting this morning. There was a discussion about each Chapter of MGS having their own DNA interest group.  MGS is very interested in starting several DIG groups in different parts of the state. Peter Michael Smith of the Augusta Chapter will be speaking at our July meeting.  He is going to try to incorporate DIG as part of MGS at the Annual Conference in Bangor on September 17, 2016.  It would be quite special as MGS will be entering their 40th anniversary.  Jerry Gower is a member of MGS and is familiar with their By-laws.  He spoke to our group and said there are supposed to be at least ten members of MGS in each Chapter.  That wouldn’t be a problem concerning this DIG because we have more than 10 MGS members in attendance today.  Nancy has presented her program on DNA to a lot of MGS Chapters, and they have requested that she help their individual chapters start up a DNA Interest Group for them. Perhaps Jerry would be the Chairperson of DIG that would interact with MGS and an Advisory Board or committee made up of DIG members.

At 10:30 Nancy showed a YouTube video on autosomal DNA  given by Jim Bartlett.  Jim has been active in genealogy since 1974.  Since 2010, Jim has been involved in the newest DNA tool, atDNA, which provides matches with cousins from any/all of your ancestors.  He has tested at all three companies, Family Tree DNA, 23andMe and Ancestry, and also uses GED match.

During the member sharing segment, Don Taylor told about his newly found half-siblings that he found through DNA testing. He took a trip to Michigan, and they had a wonderful reunion.  He had some advice to budding genealogists:  1: You can’t believe everything is in all records. And  2: Keep your test records, even after you may not find out anything using them initially.  He found some very helpful information after he had thought it was impossible to find.

The website is  and search for Maine Genealogical DIG on Facebook.

When you order DNA kits from always put in FREESHIPDNA in the coupon line, it may work – may not.  When you’re going to test an older person’s DNA, call and ask for four samples, so that their DNA will still be available in case they pass.

The next meeting is on July 10, 2016, at the Gray Library, 6 Hancock Street, Gray, Maine.

Respectfully submitted,
Lydia Mears

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Maine Genea DIG – Meeting Minutes: 14 May 2016

10:10– Welcome, Reports and New Introductions
Loraine Financial Report. $66 as of April Meeting-took in $125. Paid Nancy back for the cost ($115) of the church-$50.
Now have $75 on hand. Would like to have $100 on hand to be able to buy a book or two periodically for the library since we use that space for free. A basket is on hand for your loose change.
Nancy explained how to change the kits she provides to be under your name.

New attendees introduced themselves. Seven people offered up info as first-time attendees

34 People in attendance

10:30 Q&A Autosomal DNA
12 Marker y-DNA only on provided test-David F. helped her with the answer
No other questions on Autosomal DNA
10:40 Member Sharing
Tests in Progress/Results/DNA Stories-
Research Hints/Resources/Brick Walls
Other Meetings/News/Web Sites/YouTube Your Family Tree Explained
Sharing-wanted to do a Y-DNA but both men in her family said no. If someone is paranoid, they shouldn’t test. Y-DNA changes so little that it will not bring up any illegitimate kids

Transfer to FTDNA–You need to do that. The process is on the website. Transfer the ones that are most important. Then you will get a link that you can share and if you unlock four others your goes for free.

If the first match is 65 centimorgans, then it is like a second cousin once removed

You can’t transfer the results from 23& Me because they changed their chip. Ancestry is changing their chip… that is the gossip out there. The same company makes all the chips; different services look at different parts.

Conference in Augusta: It was progressive, and a little over a few folks experience level.

Other Meetings: Conference next week in Portland with Josh Taylor

Nancy showed a short YouTube Video explaining cousin relationships

Your best bet for organizing your matches as a spreadsheet

Nancy did a short little intro to Y-DNA
It is the Male line directly through the paternal surname line
Markers are locations on a chromosome. The more markers the better. 37 plus is needed. The more the better. 12 marker test will give you the haplogroup.
On a 37 marker test, 0-3 mismatches is the max if you are related. If you go up to a 67 marker test then you can have up to 6 mismatches.
Success story-Mason/Heath question in her family. At 12 markers the Heath surname was evident.

11:00 Break

11:15 Presentation: Fun with Y-DNA -David Farnham
Nancy introduced David Farnham
Hallmark of a good teacher is to inspire others to learn on their own. Nancy had done that for them

Autosomal is good for a few generations-4-7 max
Y-DNA can be used to confirm the genealogical record of the paternal line

Y-DNA is Paternal Line
It goes backs hundreds of years almost unchanged

Terms you have to know.
22 Pairs and 1 pair of sex chromosomes
Two ways to Process DNA
STR-Stutters in the DNA ( the same letters are repeated) values usually in the 5-50 range. Useful in genealogy. It is predictive of haplogroup (deep ancestry)
SNP single nucleotide polymorphism shows Deep Ancestry.
Thirty-seven markers are good, sixty-seven is better, but you might need an 111 marker test if your line is daughtered out.
For each marker, there is a Code of letters and their values.
Most of the services are using the same STRs and in the same order.
Dave did 111 and got four matches…2 at 12 markers which is okay but not helpful
1 at 25 markers and 1 at 67.

There is a tool on FTDNA has a predictor tool for the Y-DNA. It predicts what generation you most likely share a common ancestor. The use very conservative factors so the estimates low.
There are also Surname Projects- They show genetic distance — how how many numbers are different and by how many numbers (total) So there can be two stutters, one with 1 & one with 2 for a total of 3.
There are also Haplotype Projects-these are different things (SNP’s) that are being looked at.

There is Y-Search that allows you to upload Y-DNA from other sites. It is not part of FTDNA, but they run it.

When the genealogical record is compared, it is possible to see where the people who match you “branch” off.
You can see the earliest possible time of a mutation happening but not when it did.

Use yDNA to discover the family in England-so far a project in the works. The Ralph & Alice Farnham family is the largest group in the US.

When looking at the deep Y-DNA
AtDNA admixture (Voodoo)
Ancestry, NatGEO and FTDAN transfer-tested various times ranged 59-75% for his English origins

AncestrybyDNA- 16 points STR test predicted haplogroup G2a

Third party transfer to NEVGAN Predicted haplogroup ais G2a2a (G-L91)
Surprise!! Expected haplogroup was R1b (for UK) and G2a is from Sicily!

FTDNA came back with haplogroup G

Nat Geo test (it is a snip test) Confirmed G2a2a1a2a1a (G-FGCC5672)

Haplogroup G is the group who waited for the Ice Age to end before migrating to Europe (9K-6K ago) It is uncommon north of the Mediterranean.

You can not match on the STR’s but match on the Haplogroup. David is a match for Otzi the Iceman, who was killed in the Alps around of 3100 BC.

STR Tests -FTDNA is the gold standard. Do at least 37 or 67 unless you have a unique situation. You can do additional testing also

SNP tests are more for research and deep ancestry

Y-DNA useful for the paternal line only looks further back, can prove the gen. record, discover new relationships and more points the better.

Deep Ancestry-Geno 2.0 Nat Geo offers the best bang for the buck.

The wiki has the most accurate info and helpful sites.

Codis uses STR tests but they test other stuff than the Genealogical tests.

Confirmed Haplogroup column for additional testing is not worth the money.
Genetic Distance-how accurate is it. The chart provided shows an estimate of how often the stutter is going to happen. It is not specific enough at 67 marker test.

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Maine Genea DIG – Meeting Minutes: 9 April 2016

10:00 Reports and Introductions  Name, Town, Test and 4-6 Surnames

45  people in attendance

Nancy did a short introduction and discussed that the room did cost us $115 this month.

She plugged the Historical Societies and some of the scanning work that is being done in Gray/New Gloucester, Stockholm

This month is the 1 year anniversary of the Maine Gen. Project on FamilyTreeDNA  Over 500 people have joined and are making

Loraine reviewed donations to date: $30 +$36 (first two months)  We are at a negative balance at this point

Nancy LeCompt re: Native Indian, coastal Maine 1600’s


Introductions were done-new people and new info only

10:15  Intro to Autosomal DNA–The basic overview like the past meetings.

DNA day is this Monday-sales are going to be happening!

Codefreeshipdna at Ancestry-

If testing an older person call FTDNA and ask for four brushes


22 pair of autosomes and one pair of chromosomes-XX or XY

Chromosomes are divided into segments.  A segment match over seven centimorgans means a common ancestor

Autosomal DNA can confirm or eliminate close relationships, strengthen paper trails or weaken them-it does not lie

64 fourth great-grandparents – this is where most of the matches will come from.  You need a wide tree from 5 generations back coming forward.

It confirms genetic descent and who it may have come from

Nancy showed through the Ancestry Name pictogram that some DNA can get lost; siblings won’t share all the same DNA.

Just because you don’t match it doesn’t mean you don’t share DNA. Each company has its own Algorithms Chart of how many centimorgans (cm) are shared by close relatives

Charts available on  to understand the relationships to centimorgans


Secrets to Success

  • Work with closest matches
  • Build and put your tree online
  • Develop relationships
  • Track what you have done
  • Endogamy-pedigree collapse-cousins who have intermarried
  • Use reverse genealogy-climb up the tree then bring it forward
  • Ten generations are 72 just direct–not counting siblings


10:40 Member Sharing, Hints, Resources, Meetings, etc

Madeline Young-Had brother who tested YDna -found zero matches.  The Y chromosome goes up the male (surname) line.



DNA Workshop April 23 in Augusta–Blaine Bettinger has good charts online.

Mass. Genealogical Council is April 16 & 17 Marlborough MA-C. C. Moore is the genetic genealogist that works with Who Do You Think You Are



Nancy found her adopted sister’s mother a few years back.   She has also found her half siblings and has met with them.

How do you approach people to test when they are hesitant?  You have to be open to the idea that it might be for anybody.

Autosomal differences can be seen between siblings especially regarding ethnicity.

Ethnicity goes back thousands of YEARS, but the autosomal matches are only good for about seven generations

10:55  Break

11:15 Presentation, How To, What Next

Testing at Ancestry–

  • Out of 45 people, about 2/3 have tested at Ancestry
  • If you are a woman with no burning questions test at Ancestry and transfer to FTDNA
  • They often have tests (last Monday of April is DNA day
  • They want you to subscribe, and you have to give a credit card number, you can be an unpaid member.
  • You will create a login account.  You can activate or view tests.  Each kit has a barcode that has to be activated.  The person who is a paid member can give others full access to the results.

While you are waiting for your results:

  • Develop a tree and prepare a list of ancestors
  • Develop a standard email message to send to matches.  Make it Succinct; list ancestors by generation include years and places where known.
  • Go back as far as you can-4 or 5 generations are a good start.

When you get your DNA back

  • You have to LINK it to that tree
  • Matching and hints are based on TREES, not on the DNA
  • You can choose to have emails sent/not sent, daily or weekly
  • If you do a DNA kit for someone else you can share it in your SETTINGS area under Family Tree Linking

Ethnicity and Matches are shared on this page.

  • Shaky leaves, starred matches, and the number of 4th cousins or closer.
  • Click on all DNA matches-You can search or filter the DNA results
  • You can then look at a list of matches in order of their closeness
  • It is easiest to look at matches with public trees,  the bigger the tree, the likelier the match.
  • Ancestry results are based on the paper trees so step, adoptive and non-parental events will show as matches

Click on View Match

It will show where the match is based on the paper trail.

You can go into detail with a descendant tree which will compare two trees and show the actual people who you match.

Sometimes you can tell who you share DNA from without a chromosome browser.

DNA Circles

To be in a DNA circle, there needs to be at least three individuals/family groups that share a common ancestor in a public tree

New Ancestor Discoveries-

This is based on the idea that you have a DNA match, but they can’t find that match in a paper tree

Ancestry DNA Helper available at the Chrome store

This scans all of your matches and all of their trees.   It will give you a spreadsheet that will download ancestors of matches.  It is a HUGE spreadsheet.

You can click on “view match” if they have no tree then it will show the option of shared matches link.  These are DNA matches, not tree matches.

Ther Stars feature

You designate who gets stars to help sort sides of the families (i.e., mother’s side) and you have the options to write notes and make sure you save as you go

If you go through all the matches, you can determine then when someone is on the other side of the family by process of elimination


You need to transfer your results:

Clink on “Raw Data”

Put in data; they will send a text file, save to a place that you can find again

Go to FTDNA and click on Autosomal transfer

It is free to upload.

It will give you first name and initial of your top 20 matches

If you transfer four people, then you get a free transfer.

Meeting ended at 12:05

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10:10     Welcome, Reports and introductions, Name and town, how did you hear about dig, have you tested, 4-6 surnames and a burning questions?

10:30     Intro to Autosomal DNA

10:40     Member sharing:  Stories, Hints, Resources, Meetings.

11:00      Break

11:15        Presentation and how to

11:45       Q & A


10:10     Welcome, Reports and introductions, Name and town, how did you hear about dig, have you tested, 4-6 surnames and a  burning questions?   38 people attended. People from the local area and as far away as Berwick, York, Winthrop, Pittsfield, Portland, Belgrade and Raymond.  Room only fits 50 folks so if the attendance goes above that we may have to look for  to form a second group.

10:50     Intro to Autosomal DNA-Nancy did a short presentatin on the role of genetic Genealogy.  See February meeting notes for more details.  Autosomal DNA can confirm close relationships, provide clues on ethnicity, strengthen or weaken paper trails.  It can connect you to distant cousins.  Remember it is recombined each time it is shared. 

Case study of Mike and his sisters.  He is the oldest and his three sisters also tested.  Only one sister is a full sister.  Through not in common with comparison helped to show the mismatch was on the paternal side.  She went to the chromosome browser and looked for matches at 10 centimorgans or more.   From there she went to the FTDNA matrix to show the paternal cousin didn’t match.  Nancy found two half brothers in England.  They were not open to it at all. There is a niece though was helpful and also tested and that confirmed that they shared a mother with Mike and a father with the kids across the street.  Will you be doing a segment on how to reach out to other people?  Secrets to Success:

Closest Matches are the way to start

Build and share your Tree online-it can be a skeleton tree if you are unsure about sharing

Develop Relationships

Reverse the process-climb the tree and then go back down through the generations to the present

11:15  BREAK

11:25 Don Taylor presentation:  

At-DNA-Suddenly a Sister

Finding a Never Before Known Sister

This scenario is about his wife.  In the Ancestry DNA a close family member showed up.  He looks and saw the name, clicked on the “i” and it showed the centimorgans.  He thEn explained that 1702 centimorgans is half-sibling, niece, grandchild, aunt etc.

He looked at the trees for that person and found names that were unfamiliar.  Found the person/their mother and some info from Find-a-Grave.  Found name and birth date and determined that it could not be anything but a half sibling. Cloris K. and her daughter Robin K. (the person who tested).  His wife recognized the names as “friends of the family” from her youth.  Shared info in person with his wife’s family (including her mother).  And like that JET.COM commercial, it “Blew her Mind”

Group shared upcoming Events

11:35  Nancy FTDNA intro

When you log in to your account what you need to do to get set up.

You get a user id and passwords when you get the kit

You need to “manage personal info”  Write some info, Fill out contact personal information so people can contact you, change your password,

Under the Genealogy tab and under most distant ancestors names and fill it out as completely as possible.  Enter every surname you can find of the 64 Great-grandparents at least, enter locations if you know.  You can upload the Gedcom from your family tree program and it fills it all out for you.

Fill out the Beneficiary information for heirs to have access

You can always use the back button.  

Look at all the tabs and explore

Look at the Projects-join the Maine Genealogical Project if you have Maine roots, you can search for the projects also.

Once you are in the project you can search for people who match you. If you click on show full view and it will show you the matches and look for “in common” with

In a project Family Finder tab, go to advanced matches and it will show matches for the specific project you are looking at.

You can email that person, you can make notes on that person. 

You can transfer to FTDNA.  The transfer is free and it is $40 to unlock it.

Projects are ONLY on FTDNA

Even the Y-DNA projects are now including Autosomal results. 

11:50  Q &A 

Is there a way to do this better?  Compared it to a Computer Users Groups of the 90’s.   Need to have a different space for break-out groups. 

Is there a book on all this stuff?  Don has a list of books on the website that can be used.  Family Search has a Wiki on this.  All the companies have online tutorials.  

Got a kit, (y-DNA)  she bought the kit, it shows her name, and she should call FTDNA and they will help fix it.

Can we do a “lab” with people who have laptops and someone with expertise.

Can you do this on an IPAD

Upcoming Events

Bj Jameson course based in the UK on genealogy starting next week

Byrnes, Sullivan, and Clark into New Brunswick-Irish roots DNA project

Old New England Roots project

Ancestry has free access to Irish roots through March 17. 

BJ Jameson is speaking at the State Library about how “Black Sheep in your Family leave tracks”  March 24, 10-12

MGS Spring Workshop on April 23 in Augusta

Cumberland Historical Society on March 17 about Joseph Manchester Civil War in Windham

Pejepscot Meeting March 13 Vikings in Ireland  2:00 at Morrell Room at Curtis Memorial Library

GPC April Meeting-Advanced DNA presentation.

Adjourned at Noon

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Maine Genea DIG – Meeting Minutes: 13 February 2016

Maine DNA Interest Group

13 February 2016 – Meeting Minutes

Approx. 42 people in attendance

Meeting began at 10:15 am  at Gray Public Library on February 13, 2016

Nancy explained Typical meeting process

Welcome and Reports

Introductions: Name town and how did you hear about DIG first meeting, have you tested, where and what test, burning questions, 4-6 surnames

Intro to Autosomal DNA: 10

Member Sharing Presentations:  30 minutes-DNA stories, Research hints, brick walls, YouTube, Upcoming meetings

Break: 15 min

Presentation How to, What next 30 min-this could be 1-2 people giving presentaions.

Q & A: 15 min

We did Introductions around the room.  The majority had not been to the first meeting.   People had heard about this from Yarmouth Notes, Notices, Internet and other folks.  People from York, Berwick and the Greater Portland area.  Shared various Maine and NH names.

Maine Gaeltec Project and Italian Heritage Center has a project also Cami Riali is the contact.

Don Taylor may have found his father.  Gerry Gower may have made a connection.

Nancy shared her story about how she did her HS reunion genealogies years ago and through DNA she is now part of it.

10:45–Intro to Autosomal DNA

  • 23 pairs of Chromosomes  22 are autosomal and the other pair is XY or XX
  • 7 Generations are 64 surnames,  5 generations 16 surnames
  • May not inherit certain ethnic segments but a sibling might
  • Find relatives for those who do or so not know their ancestry
  • Autosomal recombines every generations.  It is random and dissipates quickly
  • Test the oldest generation you can
  • You get 50% from each Parent-visual block presentation from
  • DNA can be full of surprises-if you aren’t prepared for the unsuspected…Don’t Test
  • No matter how good the documentation, its impossible to know our ancestors are who paper work shows them to be.  Nancy told her atDNA story.  Facebook was a big part of how she solved her own DNA mystery.
  • A match is where you share a segment and that means you share a common ancestor.  Identical by descent.
  • ISOGG graphic showing number of centimorgans that show a true match
  • Chromosome Browser-you see your chromosomes and then click on a match person their chromosomes overlay yours and show a match
  • Prioritize who you look at the tree level and who you email.   Ancestry does not have a chromosome browser

Secrets to Success

  • Work with Closest matches
  • Build and share your tree
  • Develop a relationship with matches
  • Keep track
  • Endogamy-pedigree collapse
  • Use reverse genealogy–find the living
  • Find the 64 Fourth-great grandparents and build trees to the present.

Test-no needles-swabs and spit

Prices vary and there will be sales

FTDNA brushes-get extra brushes-samples are saved for 30 years

11:10  Don Taylor showed our web page  will eventually be

Two Major Parts

Home page-Meeting minutes, About

Menu items-these are broken into categories,



Explanation of tests, Testing sites, Links to tutorials and Learning about DNA

Resources-Projects, books, Blogs, Societies

Toolbox-includes links to tools to explain some of your results some info on Gedmatch, DNA gedcom, Genomemate (windows only),

Send ideas, resources to Don or Nancy


11:30 Presentation

FTDNA  Nancy will log on and show some tools

If you have tested at Ancestry you should transfer to FTDNA  It is free and they will show you 20 matches, the matches don’t see you.  To unlock the kit it is $39.  Or if you get 4 other people then you get a free unlock.

Why would you do this?  It gets you into more Databases and each service has its own strength.

Roland:  Family Tree Magazine has an article on  DNA in a recent issue.

Nancy opened up her account.  She started at Ancestry Results page, on the right click on settings, when that page opens, you want to Download RAW DNA data You will have to put in your Ancestry password, go to email  and click on the link to the file.  Save the text file where you can find it.  DO NOT OPEN the file

Then go to  Top left, click on DNA Test and then go to Autosomal transfer,  and Try it for Free.  SAVE you kit number

Nancy talked about “Managing a Kit”   You have the person’s name on it but you are the manager of the kits.  On Ancestry if you are a paid member then you can put relatives on your account so they don’t have to join and pay also.

Announcements, Questions and Ancestors

Krysta-you can join more than one Project

Maine Genealogical Project are on FTDNA this page has links

Janice was unable to click on surnames

Order kits through a project to save some money

the Pricing is dependent on how many markers are being tested

Only way to get a 12 marker test is through a project

25 Y and got no matches-This looks at different spots than the 12–it looks at most of the 12 but than other parts not already looked at.

FTDNA  has formal beneficiary form so that your results can be handed down in your will

How do you get your surnames into the Maine Project –Nancy can add or if you can have your tree in there as complete as possible.

Always get extra swabs.

for YDNA the 37 test is fine but 67 is better

Nancy will have more kits next month

Facebook will go live after this meeting.

Meetings are 2nd Sat of the month

Krista YDNA  can show that your surname is not your surname but it will point out cultural naming traditions

Cultural customs.   FAN

Meeting ended at noon.   Respectively submitted by Lynne Holland

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Maine Genea DIG – Meeting Minutes: 9 January 2016

Maine DNA Interest Group

9 January 2016

25 people in attendance


Nancy Intro

  • The goal for the meeting is to work together.
  • Create a Web Page and Facebook Page.
  • Agenda for meetings-presentation for 1/2 or 45 minutes then meet in small groups.
  • Presentation ideas- GED Match (Don Taylor),  23 and Me (Roland).
  • Help Start other Digs (Group in Bangor/Skowhegan) is interested
  • Nancy’s Presentation on Genetic Genealogy (Beginning Phase).

Salient points

  • All humans are 99.9% identical
  • 23 pair of Chromosomes
  • Autosomal
  • Y-DNA-Male DNA
  • Mitochondrial (men can test to see their maternal line)

Think about these Questions

  • Are you interested in a Surname
  • Do you have brick walls
  • is there and unknown paternity
  • Lineage Society can prove or disprove

Genetic Genealogy can

  • Confirm or eliminate relationships
  • Determine if two people descend from the same ancestor
  • Provide clues about your ethnic origin
  • Strengthen weak paper trails
  • Weaken strong paper trails
  • Find relatives for those who have no idea of lineage

Three Major tests

  • y-DNA-male line
  • mtDNA-female line
  • atDNA-ethnicity/cousins  autosomal DNA

You have 64 4th great grandparents…their descendants are your 4-8th cousins–it is important to get a broad accounting of who these folks are.

The major tests are:

  • FTDNA, (Nancy will have kits and tests), 
  • 23&Me (does give some health info),  
  •—  International society of Genetic Genealogy

Y-DNA–only men can test  sometimes you have to climb up/then down to get this info if you have no brother or father to test

This tests markers,  37 markers or better to start.  Markers are locations on the chromosomes.  A numerical value is assigned to each marker.  6 or fewer matches on a 37 marker test indicates some relationship.

Some funeral homes are doing swabs if requested.

mt-DNA-Directly up the female line.  This changes so little that this is a glimpse of ancient origins.  Good for proving Native American descent but won’t tell you where that connection is.  A haplogroup is a letter assignment that groups you with people who share similar DNA.  This is good for finding original origins

Autosomal DNA

  • 50% from each parent
  • Eyes, hair, height etc.
  • Potential to find valuable and meaningful information about any of ancestral line
  • Undergoes recombination every generation
  •  50%  parents and siblings You and your siblings are a little different from each other
  • 25% grandparents, aunts, uncles, 1/2 siblings
  • This is measured in CentiMorgans
  • Identical segment means you share a common ancestor
  • 8-10 centimorgans is a good place to start
  • It is important to enter ALL your ancestral surnames
  • Chromosome browsers available on FTDNA and 23 & Me – you can see which chromosome the match on.  Remember you have PAIRS and you have to see if the match is on the part of the same pair.
  • Suggest for women-test at Ancestry and transfer to FTDNA
  • If you are a man FTDNA is the only one that does the Y-DNA
  • Ancestry gives the least amount of info but lots of talking points
  • NPE-Non-Paternal Event, Not parent expected.  It is not that uncommon-20%-25%.  
  • Endogamy-Pedigree collapse–ancestors knowingly or unknowingly marries someone they are related to
  • at-DNA is generally the cheapest ($69-200)
  •  Y-DNA start at 37 marker tests start around $169/12 Marker test are available with projects
  • Get broad testing in your family-cousins, siblings, older relatives, etc

Discussion about moving forward in the group

  • Facebook-Lynne
  • Webpage-Don Taylor
  • Lynne –take notes
  • Janice asked-what is the response rate like
  • Nancy passed out discount flyers

Question–How do you know which test to use?

Y-DNA for 37 markers can be upgraded to 67 for a price (generally, the cost is the difference between the tests +$10)

How do we want to proceed from here?

Presentation at each meeting.

Need to understand how to interpret the test results.  Could we bring our results in and we could learn what it says. 

Don could do a presentation on GedMatch

Get a list of questions that people need to be answered. (1/2 hour each meeting)

Working with individual results might be cumbersome but using a person’s actual results would be interesting.

Maine Genealogical Project-Nancy could present on that.  

Meeting on how to transfer results

Nancy showed the Maine Roots DNA page

The benefits of being a DIG-we can be affiliates of other groups and get discounts.

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Maine Genealogical DIG

Maine Genealogical DIG

DNA Interest Group

Using DNA to assist with traditional research.


A group of people helping people understand who to test, when to test, why to test and how to work most efficiently with your results.

Meetings are free and open to the public, everyone is welcome. We will have volunteer presentations covering all aspects of DNA testing, group discussions, and sharing. Together we will learn about Genetic Genealogy.

The Maine Genealogical DIG is starting due to the passion of Nancy Milliken Mason, Administrator of the Maine Genealogical Project on FTDNA. You can email Nancy at

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